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Yahoo, Alibaba in Slow-Motion Divorce 雅虎和阿里巴巴踏上漫漫离婚路

UPDATE: Since writing this post this morning, Alibaba and Yahoo have announced an actual deal, whose terms are largely the same as those described below. Congratulations to both sides for finally reaching a deal!

It looks like I was wrong in predicting that the latest shake-up at the top of Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO) might derail its advanced discussions to sell back some or all of its stake in Alibaba to the Chinese e-commerce leader, with media now reporting that a deal is imminent that looks smart for Yahoo but also somewhat messy. To recap quickly, Alibaba has been trying for more than a year to buy back the 40 percent of itself that Yahoo purchased in 2005 when the 2 sides thought they could become good strategic partners. That relationship never really materialized and the situation became rather acrimonious instead, leading the 2 sides to pursue their divorce with talks that began last fall. After a false start due to unrealistic expectations by both sides, talks resumed a couple of months ago and it looked like the 2 sides might finally reach a deal. But then recently named CEO Scott Thompson abruptly had to resign last week after false claims were discovered in his resume, prompting me to say the departure could derail any progress in the latest buyback talks. (previous post) Now it seems the buyback talks must have been far more advanced than I realized, and that the Yahoo board wants to conclude a deal to give as a present to the new CEO who will eventually fill the spot vacated by Thompson’s abrupt departure. Media are saying that under the deal that could be announced as early as later today, Yahoo would only sell back half of its current Alibaba stake, or about 20 percent of the company for $7 billion, and retain the remaining 20 percent for the moment. Alibaba would then pursue an IPO in the next 18 months, at which time Yahoo would sell down half of its remaining stake, or about 10 percent of Alibaba, into the offering. (English article) Yahoo’s motivation for structuring the deal this way is relatively clear, though it looks a bit messy to me from Alibaba’s perspective. But Yahoo is clearly in the position of strength in these discussions since it’s the one holding the 40 percent Alibaba stake, and thus Alibaba has limited leverage to get what it wants out of a deal. From Yahoo’s perspective, the initial sale of 20 percent will instantly give it a nice cash infusion of $7 billion, and also show the world that its remaining Alibaba stake is worth another $7 billion or more, valuing Alibaba itself at a tidy $35 billion. That could help to quickly boost Yahoo’s laggard shares, which now value the company at just $18 billion, by boosting expectation that the company could soon use its new cash infusion to pay a dividend. What’s more, Yahoo could get more cash for future dividends if Alibaba can boost its valuation by the time of its IPO, which looks likely as the company is China’s e-commerce leader and most of its businesses are quite profitable. From my personal perspective, this deal doesn’t look too attractive since I really think these 2 companies need to get completely divorced, the sooner the better, so that each can move ahead with developing its business without unneeded distractions. But since neither Yahoo or Alibaba is asking me what I think, we’ll just have to proceed with this slow-motion divorce and eagerly await the day when these 2 companies with a stormy past finally complete their separation once and for all.

Bottom line: Yahoo’s imminent signing of a buyback deal with Alibaba looks like the beginning of a long and potentially messy divorce that will mostly benefit Yahoo.

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News Digest: May 19-21, 2012 报摘: 2012年5月19-21日

The following press releases and media reports about Chinese companies were carried on May 19-21. To view a full article or story, click on the link next to the headline.

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Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO) Finally Set to Strike Alibaba Share Deal (English article)

Tencent (HKEx: 700) Reorganizes Into 6 Units, Splits Off E-Commerce (Chinese article)

◙ China Cries Foul After US Sets Tariffs on Solar Imports (English article)

NetEase (Nasdaq: NTES) Upgrades Youdao Search Engine (English article)

China Unicom (HKEx: 762) Announces April Subscribers Data (HKEx announcement)

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Alibaba-Yahoo Buyout: Back to Square One 阿里巴巴股权回购重回起点

When the history books are finally written, the ongoing divorce between e-commerce leader Alibaba and its controlling stakeholder Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO) could well go down as one of the longest in corporate history. But unlike the case with most divorces where messy issues like who gets to keep what assets complicates the matter, this case will see Yahoo taking most of the blame for the protracted delays, which have been extended yet again with the sudden resignation of Scott Thompson just a half year after he took over as CEO of the tarnished US Internet giant. (English article) For those who haven’t followed this story too closely, Thompson has been the subject of a tempest-in-a-teapot scandal over the last couple of weeks after a dissident Yahoo shareholder discovered the new CEO had made misstated part of his degree on his resume, claiming a double degree when in fact he only had a single one. Perhaps I’m being too harsh in calling this scandal a tempest in a teapot, as clearly it’s improper to exaggerate on one’s resume. At a more fundamental level, this gaff does seem to highlight the dysfunctionality that seems to be all too common at Yahoo these days, which brings me back to the original point of this posting, namely that this latest development will deal yet another major setback to Yahoo’s long and tortured talks to sell back some or all of the 40 percent stake it owns in Alibaba. To recap briefly, the pair were all smiles when they first announced their union in 2005, with Yahoo buying its 40 percent of Alibaba — now worth more than $10 billion — for just $1 billion. The honeymoon didn’t last for very long, and relations soured considerably under the brief tenure as CEO of Carol Bartz, who repeatedly clashed with Alibaba founder Jack Ma before her abrupt firing last September. (previous post) With Bartz out of the picture, Yahoo started to negotiate a sale of the stake back to Alibaba last fall, but unreasonable expectations by both sides, combined with a lack of leadership at Yahoo later caused those talks to collapse. After Thompson’s hiring, both sides returned to the bargaining table earlier this year, and foreign media were reporting as recently as a week ago that a deal might be just weeks away that would see Yahoo sell 15-25 percent of its stake back to Alibaba. I suspect that Thompson was a major driver of that deal, as he was clearly in control and keen to resolve that issue so he could focus on his much bigger task of returning Yahoo to health. If that was the case, that means that Thompson’s resignation, which has also thrown Yahoo’s board into turmoil, could easily mean the deal being negotiated will now be scrapped. What’s more, the board, which has named an acting CEO, is likely to take at least another couple of months to name a new long-term chief executive, who will then need to get acquainted with the company before relaunching any buyback talks. At this rate, I seriously doubt the 2 sides will be able to reach a deal this year, and the earliest we could see an end to this troubled marriage would be in the first half of 2013.

Bottom line: The sudden resignation of Yahoo’s new CEO will further delay its ongoing divorce with Alibaba, with a deal unlikely until the first half of 2013 at the earliest.

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News Digest: May 5-7, 2012 报摘: 2012年5月5-7日

The following press releases and media reports about Chinese companies were carried on May 5-7. To view a full article or story, click on the link next to the headline.

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China Postal Express Plans IPO to Raise $1.6 Billion (English article)

Alibaba Several Weeks From Stake Buyback Deal With Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO) – Source (Chinese article)

◙ Telecoms Regulator Targets More Than 450 Mln 3G Users in 12th Five-Year Plan (Chinese article)

UnionPay Preparing B2C E-Payments Drive With “Panbi” Rewards System (Chinese article)

Sohu’s (Nasdaq: SOHU) Sogou Unveils Strategy to Steal Baidu Market Share (English article)

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Alibaba’s Yahoo Buyback: Deal Finally Near? 阿里巴巴回购雅虎所持股权可能为期不远

I haven’t written for a while about Alibaba’s endless quest to buy back the 40 percent of its shares held by faded US search giant Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO), so now seems like a good time to revisit the subject yet again following reports that China’s e-commerce leader is near finalizing a $3 billion bank loan it will need to complete the buy-back. (English article) Of course the main problem with this deal has never been the financing, though news of this loan could mean a deal may be near for this tortured buy-out that began with the firing of former Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz last September and has now dragged on for 8 months. According to the latest reports, Alibaba expects to finalize the loan by the end of this month, which will be a syndicated deal involving a large number of mostly foreign banks including Credit Suisse (Switzerland: CSGN) and Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS). Both Alibaba and Yahoo have shown that they want to complete a deal, so clearly there’s determination on both sides. Alibaba wants to reclaim the stake  so it can sell it to other investors in the run-up to an eventual IPO, while Yahoo wants to get rid of a stake it considers a valuable but unneeded distraction as it struggles to turn around its core US-based search business. Neither company has commented on the major stumbling blocks that have kept them from signing a deal, but based on what I’ve seen the major obstacle seems to be unrealistic expectations from both sides, including Yahoo’s desire to structure the deal in a way that will allow it to avoid paying taxes on the $10 billion or more in gains it will make through the sale. Reports in early February indicated the 2 sides were restarting discussions for the buy-out with more realistic expectations, after a previous round of talks faltered and stalled out late last year. (previous post) Neither side has commented since then, but this latest news that Alibaba is close to finalizing the $3 billion loan may indicate that the deal is finally moving forward and we could actually see an announcement in the next 2-3 weeks. Of course, hopes were high for a deal to be finalized last year after Yahoo’s big leadership change, even though those talks eventually failed, leaving everyone in limbo. The big difference this time is that new Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson has been in his job for 5 months now, during which time he has started his overhaul plan which included announcement of mass layoffs. The Alibaba stake clearly has no part in Thompson’s future vision for Yahoo, and thus he probably feels that now would be a good time to get rid of this distraction. Accordingly, he will be willing to make compromises, most likely with strong backing from the Yahoo board, to finally reach a deal. Personally speaking, I can’t wait for that day to come so this troubled marriage can finally end in divorce and both Alibaba and Yahoo can move on to more important matters.

Bottom line: Word that Alibaba is close to finalizing a $3 billion loan to buy back the 40 percent of its shares held by Yahoo indicates a deal in this drawn-out process may finally be near.

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Facebook Keeps Calling on China Facebook继续推动进军中国市场

Facebook may be making global headlines for its upcoming mega IPO, but the social networking giant is making much quieter headlines in China as well, where local media are saying it has been meeting with potential joint venture partners in its long-stated pursuit of entering the market. (English article) All this comes amid a broader opening up of China’s tightly controlled media space, which is also seeing the website of the People’s Daily, the official newspaper of the Communist Party, roaring towards a landmark IPO that, not surprisingly, is seeing huge investor demand. Let’s look at the latest Facebook talk first, which has media saying founder Mark Zuckerberg has made a number of low-key recent trips to China to meet with potential joint venture partners. There’s no reason to believe the reports aren’t true, as Zuckerberg has been very open about wanting to enter China and has made a number of trips to the country. Those include an official visit in late 2010 where he reportedly met with a number of partners including search leader Baidu (Nasdaq: BIDU), and another lower-profile visit just last month where he was spotted shopping in Shanghai in what was described as a personal visit. (previous post) My sources told me last year that Beijing had laid down a number of conditions that would make it difficult for Facebook to come to China, including requiring it to self-censor any China site it operated and also to make any information on the site available to the central government. (previous post) While such conditions looked like a deal killer at that time, Zuckerberg’s determination to enter the market, which includes a recent campaign to hire local Chinese engineers (previous post), seem to indicate he is willing to play by Chinese rules. I admire his determination, but should also point out that if and when Facebook ever does come to China, it will receive the same scrutiny, criticism and negative publicity that western organizations gave to Internet giants like Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) and Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO) when they entered the market. Facebook will also face stiff competition from established players Renren (NYSE: RENN) and Kaixin, which dominate the market but are having more difficulty finding profits there. Given Zuckerberg’s determination, I would say that China will be one of his top priorities after the IPO, and I could see the company entering the market as soon as late this year. Meantime, the People’s Daily has put out its own self-congratulatory statement in the run-up to its domestic IPO, saying it has tripled the size of the original offering due to strong demand and will sell shares that value the company at an 18 percent premium to its peers. (English article) As I’ve said before, I expect this IPO to be a huge success due to strong support from cash-rich party members and their associates. The stock could also do well in the longer term due to its party connections, but I wouldn’t look for anything too exciting in terms of growth or business initiatives due to the company’s political nature.

Bottom line: The latest reports on Facebook’s China plans indicate the company is aggressively aiming to enter the market, with a potential new joint venture possible by the end of this year.

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Alibaba, Yahoo: The Never-Ending Story 阿里巴巴股份回购“马拉松”再现曙光

It seemed like a long time since we last heard any updates on Alibaba’s never-ending quest to buy back the 40 percent stake of itself held by faded US search company Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO), and now we finally know why: apparently the talks broke down a month ago over a number of issues. But in a show of its determination to dump Yahoo once and for all, Alibaba’s CFO has reportedly flown to the US to meet with Yahoo’s CEO to see if a deal can still be worked out. (English article; Chinese article) Alibaba has been very vocal about its desire to buy back the Yahoo stake for the last 2-3 years, especially during the tenure of Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz, who had a stormy relationship with Alibaba founder Jack Ma before she was fired last year for unrelated reasons. Yahoo had indicated it was also willing to sell the stake as it hired a new CEO with a mandate to return the company’s core search business to health. So the talks were progressing with updates appearing in the media regularly until about a month ago when the issue disappeared. I attributed that disappearance to media fatigue, and assumed a deal would be announced whenever both sides finalized the agreement. But now it turns out the 2 sides couldn’t agree on a number of issues, including breakup fees and price. Another sticky issue reportedly was Yahoo’s insistence in structuring the deal in such a way that would allow it to avoid paying taxes on the huge gain in the value of its Alibaba stake, which it paid $1 billion for originally in 2005 but now is likely to be worth more than 10 times that amount. With so many sticking points, I’m not exactly sure how new talks between the 2 sides are likely to produce any real results unless both are willing to make some big compromises. The fact that they are indeed talking again does seem to indicate that perhaps we will see some such compromises, as this issue is one that both companies would clearly like to put behind them. From Yahoo’s perspective, the Alibaba issue remains a major distraction at a time when new CEO Scott Thompson wants to focus on fixing its core search and web portal businesses. For Alibaba, the company wants to find investors who will give its stock the respect it thinks it deserves and provide support and connections in the run-up to a potential IPO for the group that could come as soon as the next 2-3 years. At the end of the day, both companies want to see this issue settled once and for all so they can move on to more important matters. That said, look for each side to make some big compromises in the weeks ahead, with a 50 percent chance they may finally reach a deal by mid-year to bring this long and frustrating saga to an end.

Bottom line: The restarting of collapsed talks between Alibaba and Yahoo indicate both sides are ready to make major compromises in finally bringing an end to their equity relationship.

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News Digest: March 21, 2012 报摘: 2012年3月21日

The following press releases and media reports about Chinese companies were carried on March 21. To view a full article or story, click on the link next to the headline.

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◙ U.S. Sets Duties as High as 4.73% on China Solar Equipment (English article)

Yahoo, Alibaba Restart High-Level Discussions – Source (Chinese article)

China Telecom (HKEx: 728) Profit up 10.5 Pct on Mobile Growth (English article)

Citigroup (NYSE: C) Sells Pudong Bank Stake, Generates $349 Million (English article)

QVC Forming TV Retailing Joint Venture in China (English article)

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Baidu: Addicted to Piracy 百度:沉溺于盗版

Baidu (Nasdaq: BIDU) may be China’s undisputed Internet search leader, but new reports circulating about an abrupt collapse of talks over a new video partnership illustrate just how dependent this company is on less-than-ethical business practices like piracy and stealth advertising for its rapid growth. Chinese media are reporting that Baidu has ended discussions that would have brought online video to its service through a new partnership with LeTV (Shenzhen: 300104) after Baidu refused to LeTV’s condition that it eliminate pirated video from its video search site results. (English article) While other major Internet sites seem to be making a real effort to eliminate pirated music, video and other copyrighted material from their sites, Baidu has made some high-profile announcements to try to convince people it is making similar moves, while quietly allowing pirating activity to continue unabated on its sites. The company announced a major new initiative last year to offer legal music over its site in a tie-up with several major record labels, only to add it had no plans to simultaneously close its older popular music sharing site where piracy is so rampant that the major global music labels filed a lawsuit against Baidu several years back. (previous post) This latest development just underscores how addicted Baidu is to piracy, one factor that has helped it to triumph in the domestic search market over global players like Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) and Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO), ,which actively police their sites to keep off pirated material. This addiction to piracy is just one of Baidu’s less-than-ethical practices. The other big one is its reported willingness to manipulate search results for anyone willing to pay for such services. That includes not only giving advertisers high placement in search results without telling web surfers that such high placement was paid for, but also reportedly other things like conveniently removing negative news from search results for any individual or company that is willing to pay. So why does Baidu engage in such practices when clearly they go against international standards? The answer is simple: because it can, and because such practices are one of the main drivers for the high growth rates have made Baidu stock a darling of investors. I have no doubt that Baidu will continue to engage in such practices, and a smart, well-funded competitor like Google or Tencent (HKEx: 700) should take advantage of the situation to launch a campaign to inform the public and steal some of Baidu’s traffic. But that looks unlikely to happen anytime soon, meaning Baidu will continue with its current practices for the foreseeable future until someone — be it consumers, a rival or the government — finally steps in and says “enough is enough”.

Bottom line: The break-up of talks for a online video tie-up between Baidu and LeTV underscores Baidu’s dependence on piracy as a major driver of traffic to its site.

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News Digest: February 15, 2012 报摘: 2012年2月15日

The following press releases and media reports about Chinese companies were carried on February 15. To view a full article or story, click on the link next to the headline.

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HP’s (NYSE: HPQ) China PC Market Share Drops to 5.3% (English article)

Renren (NYSE: RENN) Updates Preliminary Q4 Results and Q4 Earnings Date (PRNewswire)

ZTE (HKEx: 763) Announces Progress of Material Litigation With Ericsson (HKEx announcement)

Amazon (Nasdaq: AMZN) Removes iPad From China Site, GOME, 360Buy Still Selling (Chinese article)

Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO)-Alibaba Talks At An Impasse: Sources (English article)

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Alibaba Looks for Value With Delisting Plan 阿里巴巴计划退市以寻求价值

The online world has been buzzing since yesterday when Alibaba.com (HKEx: 1688), the only listed unit of e-commerce giant Alibaba Group, suspended trading of its shares pending a major announcement. Many, myself included, were eagerly awaiting an announcement from the parent Alibaba Group, which has been negotiating a buyback of the 40 percent in itself held by Yahoo (Nasdaq: YHOO); but few were expecting anything from the publicly listed Alibaba.com, which is the struggling B2B arm of the larger company. Now foreign media are citing unnamed sources saying Alibaba Group wants to privatize Alibaba.com, undoubtedly because it feels the unit is not fully appreciated by investors and could potentially drag down the parent company’s valuation as it seeks to buy out the Yahoo stake. (English article) Some recent investors have been saying since last summer that Alibaba Group could be worth as much as $30 billion, which would mark a huge increase over its value in 2005 when Yahoo purchased 40 percent of the company for just $1 billion. But with Alibaba.com valued at less than $6 billion based on its price before the Thursday trading halt, that valuation for the entire group looks difficult to justify. After all, Alibaba.com is one of the group’s oldest assets and presumably one of its most profitable, even though its growth has slowed considerably over the last year after a scandal emerged that saw the company’s CEO resign. The parent company’s other major assets include its Taobao Mall, recently rebranded as Tianmao (previous post), and its Alipay e-payments system, along with its original Taobao B2C online auctions site. But even if each of those assets is worth as much as Alibaba.com, which seems unlikely, the company would still have difficulty justifying the $30 billion valuation. The publicly listed Alibaba.com just announced today that its board will meet on February 21 to review and release the company’s latest quarterly results, which will undoubtedly show more disappointing growth. At the same time, I would expect it to announce the privatization plan, offering perhaps a premium of up to 20 percent over Alibaba.com’s last closing price as it seeks to remove its embarassingly low valuation from the market. After that happens, look for the parent company to move quickly with the privatization process so that it can completely de-list the unit before announcing its long-awaited Yahoo buyout that will give the parent company a valuation more to its liking.

Bottom line: Alibaba Group aims to eliminate an embarassingly low valuation for its Alibaba.com unit through a privatization plan.

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